Could you be more precise please? What exactly is biased in my arguments?

I have heard that Malik insisted that no candidates were named as having cheated or having points deducted. Obviously you disagree.

Maybe “Malik Screwed up”?

Yes.

“Because if you meant defamation by Nouse, that would be libel.”

Thanks for the tip, but that’s why I didn’t say ‘libel’. Here’s what I actually said: ‘an attempt at character assassination, courtesy of those who messed up the elections in the first place.’

“Let’s not start using powerful words we don’t understand, eh?”

How about not trying to be sarcastic when based on the ridiculous assumption that people mean whatever suits your argument, eh?

“That’s not going to help anyone, whatever you have in mind for October.”

I don’t have anything in mind for October – I am outta this for good and I’ve said that from the beginning in no uncertain terms. I do know, however, that this is not the end of the story, so we can just be patient and see how it plays out. In the meantime, enjoy the holidays.

Because if you meant defamation by Nouse, that would be ‘libel’.

Let’s not start using powerful words we don’t understand, eh? That’s not going to help anyone, whatever you have in mind for October.

Also, I don’t know how familiar you are with the ISA, but you can rest assured that there is not much fame and certainly no fortune associated with being its president.

Let us keep in mind that we are talking about a volunteer who, over the last year, has dedicated countless hours to this role, often at the great expense of his own degree. We are talking about an extremely honest and open individual who has done more for the ISA than any other previous president – including securing it a sabbatical position. This is his reward: an attempt at character assassination, courtesy of those who messed up the elections in the first place.

Finally, it is rather unfair to say that the accusations have not been contended so far. With more than a hundred comments in this thread, I would say that everything surrounding this issue has been overanalysed.

“Look, if Malik is totally innocent, he’ll either force an apology from Nouse, or get Vision to run a counter-story. If he knows he’s doe something he shouldn’t, he’ll keep quiet while it blows over.”

There are more options available – but we’ll have to wait until October. For now, let us do what MYOB suggests and just enjoy the summer.

Daria – Nouse looks to have pointed out the mistake he made. ‘Picturing him as an untrustworthy person’, i’m afriad, is your (and others’) subjective reading of the facts presented. I notice you don’t contend the accusations, just the ‘picturing’. Unfortunately, that’s just down to the impression that the reader gets from the story (and, it mustbe said, the comments).

I’m sure Nouse wanted to publish the names of the accusers, but unfortunately journalism law exists to protect sources, and the YUSU censors probably wouldnt let it go through anyway.

Look, if Malik is totally innocent, he’ll either force an apology from Nouse, or get Vision to run a counter-story. If he knows he’s doe something he shouldn’t, he’ll keep quiet while it blows over.

Let’s see, eh?

I have a question to you though…. Have you ever worked with Adam? Have you ever seen how he’s handling problems?
If yes – fair enough if you have the opinion you’ve got.
But if no – how can you only judge him like that and put him in the same draw as other ‘campus politicians’ who abused of their roles?
Adam is a very altruistic person in my eyes and I’m not trying to make out anything…
I’m sure many ISA committe members and other people who worked long enough with him would back me up on that!

I would understand as well if Adam would be paying the price for a mistake! I don’t think the press should be silent about it! But instead of pointing out the fact that Adam took a bad decision, they pictured him as an untrustworthy person, which he really wasn’t! Doing a bad job in this case and being biaised are two different things….

Also the candidates who are accusing him are not even named… The article is only a bunch of rumours put together to make a sensation out of it! This is what I’m so disappointed about! I know Foy and I know what an ambitious and excellent writer he can be! However, articles like this are much below his level and I’m asking myself why this had to be published…..

With great power comes great responsibility, blah blah, and while York Uni ISA Prez isn’t really that ‘great’, Malik and his other elected contemporaries need to wise up to the fact that at York, with three sets of journalists who want to make the most of their Uni opportunities (as Malik is patently doing – I’m sure he’s not as altruistic as you make out), you need to behave intelligently in your elected office. Malik screwed up, played with some numbers he shouldn’t have, and now is paying the price.

Too many ‘campus politicians’ think they are untouchable, going round doing whatever they like and abusing their position, and then go crying to others when the press catch up with them.

If Adam (and other campus figures) want to avoid potential bad press, they should resign from their roles, stick their heads back in their textbooks, and live Uni like te majority of us.

Oh and read the article again – Nouse doesn’t make any accusations, Foy and Co are too clever for that. They’ve got candidates to throw the shit at Adam. So you can’t really take it out on the paper. You could, of course, find the ISA leak, get a blog and do some CV-destroying of your own…

Why do you think so many committee members are writting on this forum defending Adam?
There is a problem with the elections and something has to be done about it, fair enough…
But the article causes another problem and that is how it destroys Adam’s good reputation after all he’s done for the ISA!
I don’t know what other people defending Adam on this forum think, but my issue is right now with this article only!

Nouse instead of raising an existing issue saying that there is a problem with the ISA elections as people cheated and the decision made isn’t fully satisfying, they attacked Adam personally with false accusations! The article is neither well researched, neither well written but as long as it is online the reputation of a very *decent* individual is at stake!! Unfairly!

Honestly, Nouse, I don’t understand how a newspaper with such a good reputation as yours can even attempt to write sensationalist articles like that… It’s poor journalism and I wish you would explain yourself!
The debate isn’t about if Adam’s decision was right or wrong anymore… I trust the University and Adam to find a right way out of this…
It’s rather about the fairness of this article, which for now, I really can’t see……