Comments on: The Full Motty: musings from behind the MOTD microphone http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/ Award-winning University of York Student Newspaper and Website Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dan Hyde http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57431 Dan Hyde Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:55:44 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57431 Good point. Everton in 04-05 did break the top four monopoly, momentarily. But their utter failure the next year in the Champions League showed that they really weren't ready to challenge that monopoly on a permanent basis. They are definately devoloping what looks to be a strong squad now - maybe still short on quality in numbers in certain areas - and have been extremely successful under the radar this season. The difference with Villa is that they their football has, at times, been up there with the best. I don't remember Everton stunning people with dominant performances the Villa way. Moyes seems more results driven than performance focussed. Either way, these two provide the most likely challenge, and the improvement of Villa this season really has stood out. In Barry, Young and Agbonlahor etc. they have the sort of level of player Everton have struggled to put out, perhaps aside from Cahill and Arteta, in recent years. Let's hope both clubs can cause a few upsets in the top 4. The league needs it I reckon. Good point. Everton in 04-05 did break the top four monopoly, momentarily. But their utter failure the next year in the Champions League showed that they really weren’t ready to challenge that monopoly on a permanent basis. They are definately devoloping what looks to be a strong squad now – maybe still short on quality in numbers in certain areas – and have been extremely successful under the radar this season. The difference with Villa is that they their football has, at times, been up there with the best. I don’t remember Everton stunning people with dominant performances the Villa way. Moyes seems more results driven than performance focussed.

Either way, these two provide the most likely challenge, and the improvement of Villa this season really has stood out. In Barry, Young and Agbonlahor etc. they have the sort of level of player Everton have struggled to put out, perhaps aside from Cahill and Arteta, in recent years. Let’s hope both clubs can cause a few upsets in the top 4. The league needs it I reckon.

]]> By: ... http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57350 ... Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:35:17 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57350 The future is not blue, nor has it ever been. David Moyes is a fantastic manager, but Everton are at best a top six club, and will never permenantly challenge the top four. Fact. The future is not blue, nor has it ever been.

David Moyes is a fantastic manager, but Everton are at best a top six club, and will never permenantly challenge the top four. Fact.

]]> By: Tom Johnston http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57349 Tom Johnston Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:57:03 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57349 I agree with the above. im a blue so my opinion is probablly biased, but its hard to ignore the hard work that david moyes has accomplished with us considering the amount of money available to him. Also all our young english players (excluding dan gosling) have made their way up through our youth system. Aston Villas English have been brought to the club with millions of randy lerners cash. Im not saying that villa dont deserve praise, i just think that theyve been lucky to have a manager like martin oneill who knows were to put his chairmans money. We seem to go unoticed most of the season, which seems to suit us. As for the all english back four pairing of baines lescott jags and hibbo, not a bad shout at all to say they all deserve call ups. . .the future is Blue! I agree with the above. im a blue so my opinion is probablly biased, but its hard to ignore the hard work that david moyes has accomplished with us considering the amount of money available to him. Also all our young english players (excluding dan gosling) have made their way up through our youth system. Aston Villas English have been brought to the club with millions of randy lerners cash. Im not saying that villa dont deserve praise, i just think that theyve been lucky to have a manager like martin oneill who knows were to put his chairmans money. We seem to go unoticed most of the season, which seems to suit us. As for the all english back four pairing of baines lescott jags and hibbo, not a bad shout at all to say they all deserve call ups. . .the future is Blue!

]]> By: Anthony http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57323 Anthony Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:34:58 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57323 "Villa become the first team to genuinely challenge the top four in at least five years" !!!!! As has already been pointed out, Everton have broken into the top 4 in the 04-05 season. At the end of the season (when the position counts) 03-04 Everton placed 17th (this still stresses me out), Villa placed 6th 04-05 Everton placed 4th, Villa placed 10th 05-06 Everton placed 11th, Villa placed 16th 06-07 Everton placed 6th, Villa placed 11th 07-08 Everton placed 5th, Villa placed 6th 08-09 season so far Everton 6th, Villa 5th Form for last 6 PL games Everton L W D W D W (11pts) Villa D W L D L L (5pts) Games since the new year in all competitions Everton W=8, L=1(ManU at old Trafford to a CR Pen) D=5 F=20 A=6 Villa W=6, L=5, D=4, F=17, A=17 I think talking up Villa and forgetting about Everton is always going to annoy a blue. But to a non-blue the facts above clearly show that people are making Villa out to be something that they are not... they may do it (get into top 4) by the end of the season, but I think with Arsenals resurgence the likelihood is small... in fact I would say that they may end up below Everton by the end of the season if current form is anything to go by. “Villa become the first team to genuinely challenge the top four in at least five years” !!!!!

As has already been pointed out, Everton have broken into the top 4 in the 04-05 season.

At the end of the season (when the position counts)
03-04 Everton placed 17th (this still stresses me out), Villa placed 6th
04-05 Everton placed 4th, Villa placed 10th
05-06 Everton placed 11th, Villa placed 16th
06-07 Everton placed 6th, Villa placed 11th
07-08 Everton placed 5th, Villa placed 6th

08-09 season so far
Everton 6th, Villa 5th

Form for last 6 PL games
Everton L W D W D W (11pts)
Villa D W L D L L (5pts)

Games since the new year in all competitions
Everton W=8, L=1(ManU at old Trafford to a CR Pen) D=5 F=20 A=6
Villa W=6, L=5, D=4, F=17, A=17

I think talking up Villa and forgetting about Everton is always going to annoy a blue. But to a non-blue the facts above clearly show that people are making Villa out to be something that they are not… they may do it (get into top 4) by the end of the season, but I think with Arsenals resurgence the likelihood is small… in fact I would say that they may end up below Everton by the end of the season if current form is anything to go by.

]]> By: Brian L http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57310 Brian L Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:09:06 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57310 Everton did challenge and broke the top four in 2005. What is it with people and their obsession with Villa breaking the top four? We've already done it and could do it again this season. We've also finished 5th and 6th so have been the most consistent of the challengers. Have people conveniently forgotten? Everton did challenge and broke the top four in 2005.

What is it with people and their obsession with Villa breaking the top four? We’ve already done it and could do it again this season.

We’ve also finished 5th and 6th so have been the most consistent of the challengers.

Have people conveniently forgotten?

]]> By: KG http://www.nouse.co.uk/2009/03/10/the-full-motty-musings-from-behind-the-motd-microphone/#comment-57288 KG Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:28:47 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/?p=9467#comment-57288 "Villa become the first team to genuinely challenge the top four in at least five years". Does this mean that Everton didn't gain a top four place, as they may well yet do so this season? The 'English core' which the reporter seeks might also be found at Goodison Park with Jagielka and Lescott the best English pair of centre backs in the PL, with Hibbert and Baines a good call for a pair of full backs in an all English back four. Certainly the best all-English back four. Loads of clean sheets between them. And watch out for Rodwell and Gosling - great futures already begun. “Villa become the first team to genuinely challenge the top four in at least five years”. Does this mean that Everton didn’t gain a top four place, as they may well yet do so this season?

The ‘English core’ which the reporter seeks might also be found at Goodison Park with Jagielka and Lescott the best English pair of centre backs in the PL, with Hibbert and Baines a good call for a pair of full backs in an all English back four. Certainly the best all-English back four. Loads of clean sheets between them. And watch out for Rodwell and Gosling – great futures already begun.

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