providing information to myself and is entitled to his opinion. I believe this would have been the same win, lose or draw.

I believe that in every one of my articles, i have stressed the real victor has been college rugby and i stand by that.

Firstly, Mr. Rose, Joe’s very first comment when providing me a quote was an acknowledgement that James had mathematically won the tournament. This appears to have been conveniently omitted in the above comment, not sure why.

Secondly, i completely subscribe to the opinion that this tournament wasn’t about winning, but the resurgence of college rugby. Congratulations to James and the other two participants. More pertinently, credit to the organisers and participants for overcoming numerous obstacles to even get this tournament off the ground. May it be the first of many. Joe has been immensely helpful in providing information

Congrats to James for getting the best points-difference and to the other two as well for a three-way tie. Very close and competitive and it looks likely to continue in full force!

And Joe, where did they get “I suppose mathematically, it would be James on in-game points difference” from? :-\

/caring

And Maxwell, you complaining about someone nagging at the referee is ever so slightly rich. I’ve played with you enough to pass comment on that…

I honestly never really considered it to be a tournament. Obviously certain players from Derwent, James and Alcuin did. But for me it’s about playing regular XV a-side, College Rugby with mates & team mates. I suppose it’s easy to class it as a tournament, seeing as we all played each other and a tournament has happened in the past.

But with the new College teams coming into the game now, and with games against teams like the Law College another possibility, it never really felt like a tournament to me. I guess that sounds like an excuse for not having ‘won overall’, but I genuinely viewed these matches as the first of more against other teams; something I think is quite important to present if we want to build College Rugby and bring other Colleges on to playing regular games.

I think we risk setting Derwent, James & Alcuin apart as the ‘better teams’, who Goodricke, Vanbrugh & Halifax may not be able to play, if we start calling our matches a tournament. If we want to take XV a-side College Rugby forward and involve more teams, we need to view matches as being part of the whole schedule; not in closed tournaments.

… I’m sure you’ll agree that’s a fair and mature attitude; unlike certain petty comments. And just for your interest Will, yes I would have said exactly the same thing if we’d won, drawn or if we’d lost by a country mile.

Well done James College!

This has been amended.