Comments on: James chair forced to apologise after stripper incident

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:43:25 +0000

Why are you guys so serious about this?
You’re talking about it like anyone actually gives two…
Get real and spend your time talking about something that actually matters.

That night the JCR was completely free and availeable for anyone to use as they saw fit. The incident in question was undertaken in a discreet and harmless manner hence why it has not been uncovered until now. It was nothing to do with anyone who wasn’t there therefore there shouldn’t be such dicussions about it.

Last year the Langwith football team hired out a stripper in their JCR and nothing came of it, why is this any different!?

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By: Anon

Anon — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:30:03 +0000

There is a significant difference between having an ann summers party and hiring a stripper in a space that wasn’t booked in the first place. The issue is not the stripper because it is her way of earning money, but that these students thought it acceptable to buy a woman for the evening, which many people may find offensive (I find this objectifying and offensive). Ann summers parties are generally about women’s own pleasure and not objectification, and are generally in a non threatening atmosphere. I would expect more from a JCRC chair, particularly when he knew that JCRCs should be booked in advance so to secure the room for that use (whatever the use is) and to stop people being offended or discriminated against and walking in. A bunch of men hooting and laughing at a naked woman stripping can be quite intimidating.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:41:14 +0000

This whole ’scandal’ makes me laugh, i can’t believe how seriously this whole thing is being taken. Ok so the JCR was not booked… but out of all of the many times i’ve used it i think its been booked about once.

What really gets me going about this is how it’s been turned into something of a catalyst for the attacks that currently seem to be being launched against Chet. He is a controversial figure and doesn’t always do everyrything exactly by the book but overall he is a good chair and he has the best intentions for the college. Those who condemn him for being there, put yourself in his shoes: you’re invited to a good friend’s birthday and you turn up and there is a stripper there, would you really kick off and try and get the whole thing shut down?? Honestly?

He’s not running the country people, campus politics it taken way too seriously, not that i condone cutlasses for all, but seriously, this IS a university.

Thanks.

By: Guy Who Looks Like Shrek

Guy Who Looks Like Shrek — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:03:26 +0000

No they’re not talking about me, they’re talking about Chet Khatu, Chair of James College.

Easy mistake to make though.

By: anon.

anon. — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:12:42 +0000

There seems to be a lot of discussion on why so many people are outraged about the use of the JCR. A few people have used the argument that if people can watch violent films, have pornographic themed events and watch rugby in large numbers in the JCR, then why not a live stripper?
Following this logic, it seems that if I want to organise a ’street’ fighting match, have sex with my partner in the JCR and have a whole 5 a side football match then this should all be okay as well!
Maybe this is going a bit far, but can people see where I’m coming from?
The reason I was insulted by the use of the JCR was not some deep seated hatred of strippers, but the fact that the JCR is meant to be a place where students can go and socialise. It’s true that not all events suit everyone, but if students do walk in on them they shouldn’t be possibly offended or upset! It’s not the fact the JCR wasn’t booked, it was the fact the JCR was used at all.
Chet’s a student and should have a good time, but he also made the decision to take on the responibilty of the whole college. Instead of attending this event, surely he should have accepted this responsibilty and taken appropriate action?

By: Donkey

Donkey — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:48:05 +0000

Are you talking about the guy who looks like Shrek?

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:56:18 +0000

“He’s a legend, how about you shutup?”

I agree. The guy is a legend. He should be praised for this.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:39:12 +0000

“This event forces me to question the ability, not to mention the trustworthiness, of the present chair.”

He’s a legend, how about you shutup?

By: I love Uni!

I love Uni! — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:24:20 +0000

“…YUSU as an entity (which is what you’re implying) having a problem with the incident”.

You may have inferred this, but I certainly didn’t imply it! In any case, the entity that is YUSU is the student body, part of which clearly had, and has, a problem with what happened. “YUSU” is not the Executive Committee, or Senate, or any other sub-group.

The entity that is the University Administration doesn’t see too thrilled either!

By: John

John — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:03:11 +0000

Mo,

Apologies, I misread ‘recieved’ as ‘made’; rather exposes my own prejudices there!

By: Mo

Mo — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:40:13 +0000

“If no students took it seriously, why were complaints received by at least 2 YUSU officers?”

Well except there weren’t. Both Officers have said that they only passed on complaints made by others rather than taking issue with it themselves”

So, the complaints weren’t received.. but they were passed on.. You do realise that passing on complaints made by others is pretty much impossible if you don’t receive the complaints in the first place?

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:41:43 +0000

Don’t know him or anyone involved, but what a legend.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:39:24 +0000

I agree with the words of the chair to the fact that you do come to university to have fun as well as to study, however in everything there is a limit. In this occasion this limit was breached and because of this certain students were insulted. The question I wish to raise to the chair is would he want a stripper at his birthday party or would he find it ‘degrading and distatsteful’?

I do not doubt that the party was sucessful and everyone had fun, however,
the JCR was not booked and though the chair defends himself in saying ‘nobody walked in’, what if someone had? It is irresponsible of a person whose main purpose is responsibility to have been part of this event.

The chair outwardly defends the person who organised the event, and be they of James college or other, it was the chairs responsibility to make sure that no such event had happened, especially in the JCR.

This event forces me to question the ability, not to mention the trustworthiness, of the present chair.

By: David

David — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:08:34 +0000

Also, I realise this is Vision’s responsibility rather than Nouse’s but it’s a bit curious that in their photo relating to this, they blurred out the face of the student but not the stripper. Did nobody at Vision think maybe she had some rights as well?

By: David

David — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:06:27 +0000

Except maybe engaging properly with an issue rather than winding people up for the sake of it. How pointless is that?

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:23:25 +0000

*flex*
Nothing like winding up people who can’t see a tongue in cheek comment.

By: David

David — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:15:44 +0000

“Only an uptight, divorced, middle-aged, white woman would possibly get offended by this.”

Not only is this statement completely false, it’s probably more offensive than the actual incident being discussed. By all means defend Chet if you wish but please do it without saying anything quite so stupid as this. Stereotyping people in this way is inaccurate and unhelpful.

By: John

John — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:44 +0000

“If no students took it seriously, why were complaints received by at least 2 YUSU officers?”

Well except there weren’t. Both Officers have said that they only passed on complaints made by others rather than taking issue with it themselves

There is a significant difference I feel, between a few (or even one) student(s) making a complaint which was then passed on by YUSU officers, and YUSU as an entity (which is what you’re implying) having a problem with the incident.

By: Miranda

Miranda — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:46:37 +0000

‘Only an uptight, divorced, middle-aged, white woman would possibly get offended by this. Don’t sweat, no students took this seriously.’

What an utterly contemptible comment to make. Aside from your outmoded and frankly downright offensive labels, if anything the comments on this page and the article itself show that students really are taking this seriously.

Chet, if these are the kind of people arguing in your favour, you should cut your ties immediately. It’s not going to help the reputation you keep going on about.

By: I love Uni!

I love Uni! — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:41:02 +0000

“Only an uptight, divorced, middle-aged, white woman would possibly get offended by this. Don’t sweat, no students took this seriously”.

If no students took it seriously, why were complaints received by at least 2 YUSU officers?

And what (who?) on earth is the first sentence of this quote about? What does anyone’s marital status, age or colour have to do with anything? And do we know it was only women who complained?