Comments on: A Hitch too far? YUSU and the agents of Health and Safety http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/ Award-winning University of York Student Newspaper and Website Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Sam Bayley http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47905 Sam Bayley Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:42:03 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47905 No, that's simply not true. YUSU would be held responsible if anything went wrong, that is the advice we received from our insurers and legal people... Daniel, I appreciate you're disappointed about the hitch not being YUSU ratified but it's going to be at your own risk (or the charity's) I'm afraid. If you've got any other points please contact me rather than adding comments here which may mislead people who don't know the full story. No, that’s simply not true. YUSU would be held responsible if anything went wrong, that is the advice we received from our insurers and legal people…

Daniel, I appreciate you’re disappointed about the hitch not being YUSU ratified but it’s going to be at your own risk (or the charity’s) I’m afraid.

If you’ve got any other points please contact me rather than adding comments here which may mislead people who don’t know the full story.

]]> By: Daniel Ball http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47806 Daniel Ball Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:29:53 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47806 But that's my point, with all the we had to go through before the hitch, daily and before getting into any car, anything that could go wrong would not be the fault of YUSU or the hitch organisational body. I don't understand what on earth your point is by citing people who drink ten pints and drive, if they do crash, it's obviously their fault and no insurer would pay out or take liability for that. Similarly, I don't see how YUSU is worried about things (from a liability viewpoint) that would be completely out their control if something went wrong. But that’s my point, with all the we had to go through before the hitch, daily and before getting into any car, anything that could go wrong would not be the fault of YUSU or the hitch organisational body.

I don’t understand what on earth your point is by citing people who drink ten pints and drive, if they do crash, it’s obviously their fault and no insurer would pay out or take liability for that. Similarly, I don’t see how YUSU is worried about things (from a liability viewpoint) that would be completely out their control if something went wrong.

]]> By: Sam Bayley http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47801 Sam Bayley Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:26:19 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47801 Daniel, I suggest you put that one to our insurers. There's not much that YUSU won't ratify on grounds of risk, but we have a duty of care and we would be liable if anything goes wrong, so we have to be careful. I know people who twenty years ago used to drink 10 pints at the pub then drive home with one eye closed to focus on the road. Luckily, they never crashed. Doesn't make it risk free though!! Daniel, I suggest you put that one to our insurers. There’s not much that YUSU won’t ratify on grounds of risk, but we have a duty of care and we would be liable if anything goes wrong, so we have to be careful.

I know people who twenty years ago used to drink 10 pints at the pub then drive home with one eye closed to focus on the road. Luckily, they never crashed. Doesn’t make it risk free though!!

]]> By: Daniel Ball http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47729 Daniel Ball Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:25:49 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47729 The risk of 16 years incident free? I understand that yes if it goes wrong it GOES WRONG but there are more ratified societies and events with a far worse track record than Hitch-soc. Re: being sued, seems a bit far-fetched. Should anything go wrong it would be because the hitcher didn't follow guidelines or it would be due to something completely out of YUSU's control. I.e. not their fault or liability. The risk of 16 years incident free? I understand that yes if it goes wrong it GOES WRONG but there are more ratified societies and events with a far worse track record than Hitch-soc.

Re: being sued, seems a bit far-fetched. Should anything go wrong it would be because the hitcher didn’t follow guidelines or it would be due to something completely out of YUSU’s control. I.e. not their fault or liability.

]]> By: Sam Bayley http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47671 Sam Bayley Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:54:24 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47671 To clarify, YUSU can't stop things happening. By not ratifying the Hitch, we've basically said we won't insure it or back it up if things go wrong. Personally, I hope it all goes well. If things go wrong hitching to Morocco, they could go BADLY wrong - and our expert staff decided that the risk was too much for the Union to handle. To clarify, YUSU can’t stop things happening. By not ratifying the Hitch, we’ve basically said we won’t insure it or back it up if things go wrong. Personally, I hope it all goes well.

If things go wrong hitching to Morocco, they could go BADLY wrong – and our expert staff decided that the risk was too much for the Union to handle.

]]> By: Hitcher http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47593 Hitcher Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:54:55 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47593 YUSU has declined to ratify the Morocco Hitch because, if ratified, it is YUSU that gets sued if something goes wrong. YUSU has declined to ratify the Morocco Hitch because, if ratified, it is YUSU that gets sued if something goes wrong.

]]> By: Daniel Ball http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47549 Daniel Ball Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:42:07 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2008/02/03/a-hitch-too-far-yusu-and-the-agents-of-health-and-safety/#comment-47549 I was one of the 3 students who last year managed to hitch-hike from London to Prague, Prague to Slovenia and from there onto Morocco, we spent a month hitch-hiking in countries not covered by Link (the charity organisers) and can't begin to understand what YUSU's problem is. The documentation, communication and organisation is extremely well organised, the talks, advice, rules and guidlines laid out before pretty much guarantee your safety if you adhere to them. I wonder if any of YUSU have attempted the hitch or hitch-hiking in general. Before I did our hitch I was sceptical over safety and security, after it, I'd be happy hitch-hiking pretty much anywhere. I was one of the 3 students who last year managed to hitch-hike from London to Prague, Prague to Slovenia and from there onto Morocco, we spent a month hitch-hiking in countries not covered by Link (the charity organisers) and can’t begin to understand what YUSU’s problem is. The documentation, communication and organisation is extremely well organised, the talks, advice, rules and guidlines laid out before pretty much guarantee your safety if you adhere to them.

I wonder if any of YUSU have attempted the hitch or hitch-hiking in general. Before I did our hitch I was sceptical over safety and security, after it, I’d be happy hitch-hiking pretty much anywhere.

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