Comments on: Opening the X-files: inside Britain’s UFO Project http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/ Award-winning University of York Student Newspaper and Website Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:59:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: romi http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-53164 romi Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:49:00 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-53164 yes i realy do belive in ufos even though i have not seen one yet i belive in them i only wish i could see one but sometimes i think i have seen one or two but no there was two white things in the sky and one shining briht one right by each other yes i realy do belive in ufos even though i have not seen one yet i belive in them i only wish i could see one but sometimes i think i have seen one or two but no there was two white things in the sky and one shining briht one right by each other

]]> By: Shak http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-53158 Shak Mon, 04 Aug 2008 09:30:40 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-53158 Cranks !! Cranks !!

]]> By: Iris Chandler http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-52989 Iris Chandler Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:15:40 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-52989 Great Story, I also have a picture that was taken outside my house but no one believes me. Regards Iris Great Story, I also have a picture that was taken outside my house but no one believes me.
Regards Iris

]]> By: Alfred http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51442 Alfred Wed, 14 May 2008 14:31:38 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51442 I hope that there are aliens out there, I believe that there are and I wish that they will come to put this world at peace. I hope that there are aliens out there, I believe that there are and I wish that they will come to put this world at peace.

]]> By: woodyhorsey http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51440 woodyhorsey Wed, 14 May 2008 13:53:22 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51440 He's lying! he knows way more than he's admitting and just like all other govt, officials who have been briefed/threatened on this subject he is sticking to the lie.top govt officials have allready made contact with these beings operating these crafts in every country they have appeared in He’s lying! he knows way more than he’s admitting and just like all other govt, officials who have been briefed/threatened on this subject he is sticking to the lie.top govt officials have allready made contact with these beings operating these crafts in every country they have appeared in

]]> By: David Howard http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51083 David Howard Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:14:25 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-51083 It must be understood that Nick Pope singed a small piece of paper when he joined the armed services and for him to write about anything other then what he has received permission to write about, would involve him being in breech of the Secrets Act. That would bring down around is head, all sorts of troubles. This applies to anyone in the Armed Forces and others employed in many Government departments. This basically means one can talk or write about generalized subjects but details cannot be gone into unless one has been authorized. That only happens where it concerns very silly secrets or items that are somewhat made up. Recently we have seen the ex-head of a secret department, swear in court that our agents have never killed anyone. Perhaps I disagree with him or not, but there is know way he could have said anything else, for had he done so he would have admitted that our Governments have clodded in the murder of people for their interests and that would have been admitting a State Secret. Therefore anything that dear old Nick writes about, must be taken with a large pinch of salt, except records that have been officially released. Even in those cases, many consist of pages a pages of blanked out text. We shall never get the whole truth of the substance of most of these files. David A. Howard. It must be understood that Nick Pope singed a small piece of paper when he joined the armed services and for him to write about anything other then what he has received permission to write about, would involve him being in breech of the Secrets Act. That would bring down around is head, all sorts of troubles.
This applies to anyone in the Armed Forces and others employed in many Government departments. This basically means one can talk or write about generalized subjects but details cannot be gone into unless one has been authorized. That only happens where it concerns very silly secrets or items that are somewhat made up.
Recently we have seen the ex-head of a secret department, swear in court that our agents have never killed anyone. Perhaps I disagree with him or not, but there is know way he could have said anything else, for had he done so he would have admitted that our Governments have clodded in the murder of people for their interests and that would have been admitting a State Secret.
Therefore anything that dear old Nick writes about, must be taken with a large pinch of salt, except records that have been officially released. Even in those cases, many consist of pages a pages of blanked out text. We shall never get the whole truth of the substance of most of these files.
David A. Howard.

]]> By: Joe McGonagle http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44415 Joe McGonagle Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:28:22 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44415 A very interesting, if misleading read. I see it has been reproduced by the San Francisco sentinel at: http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=5919 As pointed out by 'Graylien', Pope has a very inflated view of his past role at the MoD. He was more of a Public Relations spin-doctor than someone with a "defence intelligence" background. I'm surprised he isn't claiming to have been in the Special Air Service as well! As for the 1993 cluster of UFO reports he alludes to, they were in fact several unrelated reports 'tagged on' to a satellite re-entry. For an accurate reflection of that incident, please visit my site at: http://www.uk-ufo.org/cosford and compare the facts with Pope's account. Joe McGonagle A very interesting, if misleading read. I see it has been reproduced by the San Francisco sentinel at:

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=5919

As pointed out by ‘Graylien’, Pope has a very inflated view of his past role at the MoD. He was more of a Public Relations spin-doctor than someone with a “defence intelligence” background. I’m surprised he isn’t claiming to have been in the Special Air Service as well!

As for the 1993 cluster of UFO reports he alludes to, they were in fact several unrelated reports ‘tagged on’ to a satellite re-entry. For an accurate reflection of that incident, please visit my site at:

http://www.uk-ufo.org/cosford

and compare the facts with Pope’s account.

Joe McGonagle

]]> By: James http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44397 James Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:39:22 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44397 SETI, what a joke. They have been here a long time, and they took a wrong and deadly turn at Roswell... SETI, what a joke. They have been here a long time, and they took a wrong and deadly turn at Roswell…

]]> By: UFOMystic » Nick Pope on UFOs http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44361 UFOMystic » Nick Pope on UFOs Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:27:16 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44361 [...] Here’s a link to a good, new interview with former British Ministry of Defense employee, Nick Pope. Between 1991 and 1994, Nick was tasked with handling UFO reports for a department of the MoD known then as the Secretariat of the Air Staff. [...] [...] Here’s a link to a good, new interview with former British Ministry of Defense employee, Nick Pope. Between 1991 and 1994, Nick was tasked with handling UFO reports for a department of the MoD known then as the Secretariat of the Air Staff. [...]

]]> By: » Blog Archive » Inside Britain's UFO Project http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44344 » Blog Archive » Inside Britain's UFO Project Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:49:44 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44344 [...] Article:Here [...] [...] Article:Here [...]

]]> By: Graylien http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44336 Graylien Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:42:50 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44336 Calling Pope the 'head of the UFO Project' gives a slightly misleading impression - there was no 'UFO Project' at the MOD and the bulk of Pope's working week was taken up with administrative duties entirely unconnected with UFOs. When pressed by another researcher to explain Popes role within the MOD, the Ministry explained that: "Mr Pope was employed as an Executive Officer in Secretariat(Air Staff) 2. The main duties of the post concern non-operational RAF activities overseas and diplomatic clearance policy for military flights abroad. "A small percentage of time is spent dealing with reports from the public about alleged 'UFO' sightings and associated public correspondence. The Ministry of Defence has not investigated a case of alien abduction, crop circle formations or animal mutilation". (Source: UFO Updates Mailing List) Since leaving the MOD, Pope has carved out a career for himself as 'Britain's Fox Mulder' and has written a couple of extremely derivative books on the UFO phenomenon that were rather poorly received by other researchers in the field. He also seems to have been giving exactly the same interview for the past 8 years - since his first book came out. Calling Pope the ‘head of the UFO Project’ gives a slightly misleading impression – there was no ‘UFO Project’ at the MOD and the bulk of Pope’s working week was taken up with administrative duties entirely unconnected with UFOs.

When pressed by another researcher to explain Popes role within the MOD, the Ministry explained that:

“Mr Pope was employed as an Executive Officer in Secretariat(Air Staff) 2. The main duties of the post concern non-operational RAF activities overseas and diplomatic clearance policy for military flights abroad.

“A small percentage of time is spent dealing with reports from the public about alleged
‘UFO’ sightings and associated public correspondence. The Ministry of Defence has not investigated a case of alien abduction, crop circle formations or animal mutilation”.

(Source: UFO Updates Mailing List)

Since leaving the MOD, Pope has carved out a career for himself as ‘Britain’s Fox Mulder’ and has written a couple of extremely derivative books on the UFO phenomenon that were rather poorly received by other researchers in the field.

He also seems to have been giving exactly the same interview for the past 8 years – since his first book came out.

]]> By: B. Inthof http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44323 B. Inthof Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:36:37 +0000 http://www.nouse.co.uk/2007/10/10/opening-the-x-files-inside-britain%e2%80%99s-ufo-project/#comment-44323 Nice article. Nick Pope is a well-spoken, thoughtful man. The only thing I might nitpick is that he, like many who are trying to remain skeptical yet cautiously optimistic about ET contact, is such a fan of the SETI logic. I will certainly be enthused if indeed a signal is finally detected; however, the logic that an advanced alien race would use a radio signal for contact is a bit shortsighted and "provincial". A 150 years ago we would have used the pony express to send/receive messages, never envisioning a wireless method would replace it eventually. Are we "waiting for the pony to come" so to speak with our ear to the cosmos? What if radio communication is irrelevent and replaced by something else in a hundred years? The problem with mainstream science is that it is unable to deal with the fact that extra-terrestrial life will probably not come to us on our terms, like in a signal from space or a microbe from Mars. It will come (or is here), and as Nick says they will be the ones who set the agenda or call the shots. Nice article. Nick Pope is a well-spoken, thoughtful man. The only thing I might nitpick is that he, like many who are trying to remain skeptical yet cautiously optimistic about ET contact, is such a fan of the SETI logic. I will certainly be enthused if indeed a signal is finally detected; however, the logic that an advanced alien race would use a radio signal for contact is a bit shortsighted and “provincial”. A 150 years ago we would have used the pony express to send/receive messages, never envisioning a wireless method would replace it eventually. Are we “waiting for the pony to come” so to speak with our ear to the cosmos? What if radio communication is irrelevent and replaced by something else in a hundred years? The problem with mainstream science is that it is unable to deal with the fact that extra-terrestrial life will probably not come to us on our terms, like in a signal from space or a microbe from Mars. It will come (or is here), and as Nick says they will be the ones who set the agenda or call the shots.

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